PScheme, You've seen Cedar's top ten list for the year?
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/243477/1/10-things-that-happened-in-2012-my-review
i hadn't been on the board to visit much last year, so i have been going back and poking around through the older threads since i started to post here.
i was on jwfacts.com, and noticed paul had posted a brief article about the jw video and the evil sparlock the warrior wizard.
we have no children, and i never got those videos anyway (even when i was still an elder), so when i went back and read all of the old threads, i was crying laughing.
PScheme, You've seen Cedar's top ten list for the year?
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/243477/1/10-things-that-happened-in-2012-my-review
like many on here, as a jw trying hard to follow the direction of the gb, i listened to the advice to pioneer and trust in jehovah to provide (mat6.33) instead of going to university.
after struggling for ages in low-paid physically-demanding jobs, i decided to become a student (thanks for the encouragement on here guys!).
i tell a jw i wish i had been to university when i was a teenager, and put all that pioneer time into studying hard for a good grade, get a good job, and if i had wound up tired as i am now, at least i would have been paying into a mortgage on a home and pension.
Just keep doing your thing Aware!. Time is on your side, so keep focusing on your future free from the intimidation and fear.
was talking with blackman the other day and reflecting on our past and we were discussing some trials we went thru together, namely bethel.
our friendship has endured thru days of pioneering together, bethel and now full fledged post jw apostasy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1.
what we were talking about was other friends of ours who went thru and endured some severe bullshit at bethel.
Giving it a bit more thought, JWs don't understand what real friendships are supposed to be about. The organization and "Jehovah" intrude right into the bedroom of a husband and wife, so how can they have any real, trusting friendships.
was talking with blackman the other day and reflecting on our past and we were discussing some trials we went thru together, namely bethel.
our friendship has endured thru days of pioneering together, bethel and now full fledged post jw apostasy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1.
what we were talking about was other friends of ours who went thru and endured some severe bullshit at bethel.
You have to remember that they're still drinking the Kool Aid. It twists an otherwise normal and loving person into a stressed-out, paranoid, lifeless drone. They live to chase the carrot and fear the stick. I know the anger and frustration that comes with dealing with those still trapped inside, but mostly I pity them.
like many on here, as a jw trying hard to follow the direction of the gb, i listened to the advice to pioneer and trust in jehovah to provide (mat6.33) instead of going to university.
after struggling for ages in low-paid physically-demanding jobs, i decided to become a student (thanks for the encouragement on here guys!).
i tell a jw i wish i had been to university when i was a teenager, and put all that pioneer time into studying hard for a good grade, get a good job, and if i had wound up tired as i am now, at least i would have been paying into a mortgage on a home and pension.
I had a similar exchange with my mother, but I aimed my responses in a very different direction. I don't argue, I agree and draw inconvenient conclusion for them. Such as:
JW - It's your fault, you didn't need to pioneer, you chose to, but could have been like other brothers who don't [put the Kingdom first]
Me - You are so right. I was a stupid and gullible child to believe their promises that the world was so soon to end in the 80s, because of their generation prophecy that has long expired.
JW - You have to use common sense! Don't just do what you are told.
Me - Maybe if Watchtower, the COs, and the assemblies would have put more emphasis on "common sense" and less on obedience, I might have thought more clearly and would have made better decisions that I don't regret today. Now I've finally learned not to just do what I'm told.
JW - You made the problem for your self by taking what people say too seriously.
Me - And that's a problem I don't intend to repeat. I have come to realize that the advice I've followed in the past is nothing but a big joke. I take nothing from WT publications or platforms seriously. It's very clear that anything written or said today can very quickly become old light in next month's WT study article. How can it be taken seriously anymore?
JW - No one said you can't go to university.
Me - You weren't there when I had my first bethel interview. The bethel heavy I spoke to told me that college was a waste of time since the end was so close and that my attending college would call my father's qualifications as an elder into question. How often I've wished that I could go back to that moment and get the counsel you're giving me now. He was just a foolish old man pressuring me into a course that would lead to disappointment, unhappiness, and free service to WT corporation. Now I've well outgrown the authority of my dad and the guy from that bethel interview is dead by now, so it's a fine time for me to go to university. I appreciate this encouragement you've given me to continue my studies and not look back at the mistakes of the past. You're so right that I wasted decades mindlessly believing things that I shouldn't have taken seriously. And I highly encourage [insert name of local JW teen here] to take education seriously and consider going to university.
first off, i love frequenting this forum.
it has given me the opportunity to truly put jw stuff to the test and i thank everyone for their helpful responses.. however, i have noticed a couple things.. 1) the use of the word "troll" is completely childish.
this is no different than the name calling used by jws (e.g.
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Perhaps WT is hoping armageddon will come before Feb. 6? I don't know why they'd need an extension. It's not like bethel was closed during the holidays.
first off, i love frequenting this forum.
it has given me the opportunity to truly put jw stuff to the test and i thank everyone for their helpful responses.. however, i have noticed a couple things.. 1) the use of the word "troll" is completely childish.
this is no different than the name calling used by jws (e.g.
">:O OFF-TOPIC COMMENT ABOVE!!! BAN HIM, BAN HIM!!! "
I believe that's another one of the nicest things you've ever said about me. I'm flattered. In fact, I'm so flattered that I'm going to leave my computer and go out and celebrate. I've moved up from "bite his face off" to "ban him". Hurray for me!
just got back from florida where i spent the holidays with family.
about half are jdubs.. this year the prevalent atmosphere of superiority from the jw side of the family was totally toned down.
one of my cousins, a bethelite in upstate ny bethel along with his wife, found out that the wife was having an affair with a young bethelite "brother".
"Jehovah is cleaning is organization"
JWs are completely obsessed that "cleaning" must involve death and destruction.
first off, i love frequenting this forum.
it has given me the opportunity to truly put jw stuff to the test and i thank everyone for their helpful responses.. however, i have noticed a couple things.. 1) the use of the word "troll" is completely childish.
this is no different than the name calling used by jws (e.g.
Shamus the professional cat-washer. He used to be a cat herder until that accident with the horse... and the cowboy riding it.